2026-08-18

Truth about the Germanic people

 

There is no truth

Germanic tribes lived from about 3500 BC to about 100 AD. Each tribe had its own myths and customs. And they changed over time.

So we can not say things like: "The Germanic people were like this and they believed that". Most likely at some point of time there were Germanic people that were like 'this' and believed 'that'. But it is tricky to make specific statements about Germanic people in general.

 

Christianity

Can someone give me a scientifically sound description of Christianity in a few sentences?

There are plenty of written sources, the Christian cultures are easy to study. But can someone now tell me what is and what is not Christian?

Christianity is only 1900 years old and fairly well documented. But you have modern Korean Christians, 'born-again' Christians from the USA, Catholics from Brazil, heavily Reformed from the Netherlands. Even today Christianity is so far apart that you can't say "this is Christian".

If we look back 1900 years, we see the inquisitors around 1570 in Spain around King Philip. We see Cathars, Gnostics, Greek Orthodox, Syrian Christians, Russian Orthodox, Calvinists, Crusaders, ... One moment the murder of all that is non-Christian is a godly work, a few centuries later the Christians admit that was actually genocide.

There are certain things that are unchristian. Including worshiping the devil. It becomes difficult to name a second or a third thing that has never occurred in a Christian culture.

 

Germanic people

The Eddas and the oldest chapters of the Rig Veda have such similarities that many scholars believe in a culture that predated the Germanic people and the Brahmins. It used to be called the Indo-Germanic culture.

The Rig Veda probably originated 5500 years ago. The disintegration of Germanic people and Brahmins should therefore date from before 3500 BC.

 

According to DNA research of David Reich et al. the Germanic people came from Central Asia from the Yamnaya culture.

See: wikipedia, the Guardian, Search with duckduckgo.

 

There are also much similarities between the Zend Avesta and the Eddas. I believe (in 2022) that there was a culture in Central Asia that was defeated by an other culture and they had to flee. Some of them went south and became the ancient Persians. They brought forth the Zend Avesta. Some of these Persians crossed the Himalayas and became the Brahmins. They brought forth the Rig Veda. The rest went west and became the Germanic people. They sang the old songs during gatherings. These songs are called the Veddas. Old Norwegian lost the 'V' in front of many words. So these songs were written down as the Eddas. (Note. The Norwegian deity Odinn is called Vodanes, Wodan or Woden in German and Dutch.)

If my assumption is right, then priests of 'Anima Solaris' learned the sacred songs by heart and kept the religion alive. And they did this from before 3500 BC. In ancient Persia this 'Anima Solaris' became 'Ahura Mazda'. In India it became 'Indra'. And among the Germanic tribes it became Woden. When the Scandinavian languages lost the 'V' for many words, it became Óðinn. (I use 'it' and not 'He' for 'Anima Solaris', since I do not believe it has a gender.)

Germanic culture ended around AD 0, maybe a few 100 years later. I believe the Netherlands became Christian between 500 and 700, Norway a little later between 875-1050. But at that time the Germanic tribal culture had already disappeared. The period between about 0 and 1000 AD can no longer really be called Germanic. It was a transition period. Tribes fell apart, Roman customs were adopted, people learned to cultivate land systematically.

The written information about the Germanic people comes from Romans and Christians and dates from the period when the Germanic culture was already disappearing. Presumably the book 'Germania' by Tacitus gives the most reliable information about Germanic tribal culture, and then only fragments of a few tribes. And most of what Tacitus wrote was second-hand or third-hand 'hear-say'. And we have no information about the people that reported to Tacitus about customs of Germanic tribes. Did these people spoke good Roman? Could Tacitus understand what they were saying?

We also do not know about the political motives of the people that spoke with Tacitus about the customs of Germanic tribes. I will give you an example of our time. Most of us know a native American tribe by the name 'Apache'. When I participated in a workshop of Oh Shinnah Fast wolf she stated: 'Apache' is a Zuni word and it means enemy. We call ourselves the 'Teneh' (the people). Much of the writings of 19th century authors about native Americans came from other tribes. And many reporters had political motives. We should assume, that the people that reported to Tacitus also had political motives.

Most people who write about the Germanic people mainly base themselves on Icelandic writings. I do that as well. Just because there isn't much else. But Iceland was not and never has been a Germanic country. When Harald Fairhair subjugated and forced Norway to convert, Norway's most stubborn heathens decided to move to Iceland. In Norway, the Germanic tribal culture had long since disappeared. The heathen farmers left for Iceland, took possession of a piece of land and tried to stay alive. On the basis of the stories of those pagans, the ancient sagas and stories of the 'gods' have arisen. These are not Germanic, but Icelandic. We do not really know if these myths were the same with the old Germanic tribes.

The writings of Snorri Sturluson are particularly problematic. Apparently he was murdered by men in the service of the king of Norway. Why? Was he planning an uprising of Iceland against Norway? And was he writing about the pagan past to rejuvenate paganism? He wrote about Óðinn as 'Allföðr' which translates to 'Father of all'. With this he put Óðinn in direct opposition to the Christian god.

If Snorri was planning an uprising, then we must be very careful with his writings. Perhaps he tweaked the old myths as part of a political scheme.

The Germanic culture would have existed from about 3500 BC to about the year 100. With a lot of good will you could stretch the period to 875 AD, when Norway had largely become Christian. 3500 to 4500 years of paganism, many different tribes, each with their own culture. About 1900 years of Christianity we can't even say "this is Christian". The 'Germanic period' was more than twice as long and the peoples and cultures were at least as diverse. You cannot determine whether something is Germanic, or whether something is not Germanic.

 

Germanic people never existed

Scientifically speaking, there have never been Germanic people. The Romans called the land north of the Roman Empire Germania and the inhabitants Germanic people. They didn't know much more about it.

Tribes lived there: Franks, Danes, Angles, Saxons, Frisians, Vandals, Langobards, Goths, Batavians and many others. We don't even know the name of many tribes, let alone their culture.

At that time, Europe was a vast jungle from northern Italy to northern Scandinavia. There were no trails, the area was very sparsely populated, and if you weren't a very good woodsman you didn't stand a chance of getting through.

 

 

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Native European shamanism

The world tree Yggdrasil

Edda means wit

When you put a 'V' before the word Edda, you get Vedda or Veda.

Vedda or Wedda is related to the Dutch word 'weten' and the Germand word 'wissen' (to know) and the English word 'Wit'

The Edda, the Rig Veda en the Zend Avesta have the same origin.

Where did Germanic peoples come from

According to DNA research of David Reich et al. the Germanic people came from Central Asia from the Yamnaya culture.

Bias against pagans

The Pre-Christian pagans of Europe are often pictured as 'primitive', 'barbaric', 'cruel', 'vicious', et cetera. Quite often they have been accused of sacrificing humans. Based on what evidence?

This article is about the bias of many people against the Pre-Christian pagans of Europe. This bias is just another form of racism.

Hate against women

Did the old Germanic peoples hate or despise women?

In the Edda's and other old writings about the Germanic peoples and their mythology the women are almost completely ignored. Does this reflect the attitude of the old Germanic peoples or the attitude of the Christian writers?

Óðinn is not Óðinn

When authors use the label Óðinn, what are they referring to? Do different authors use the label Óðinn to refer to the same 'thing'?

I distinguish the following different meanings of Óðinn.

  1. Óðinn as father of all, as Anima Solaris.

  2. Óðinn as Hangatýr.

  3. Woden woody as deity of the woods.

  4. Óðinn as father of the fallen.

  5. Óðinn as a heroic person, a king, a sorcerer, a con-artist.

Old Germanic calendar

The calendar of Óðinn had eight months of one and a half moon. Then followed the 'time between the years' or Yule. This period lasted a half moon.

A year consisted of 12 and a half moon. As a result, the year started alternating with a full moon or a new moon. This resulted in feminine and masculine years or positive and negative years.

In this calendar a year is 3.89 days to long. In nine years this amounts to 35 days. So once in every nine years the last month was shortened by a whole moon or with one and a half moon.

Werewolves and Werebears

Summary

In this article I will present a very different interpretation of Heimdallr. Heim-dallr means: 'Dick of the world' or 'House-dick'. His horn is his dick. In Rigsþula he is named Rigr. This means 'rigid'. So Rigsþula should be interpreted as: 'The tale of Stiffy, a telling of his epic journey bedding all couples and fathering all humans'.

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